Hey, everybody, welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast, a conversation designed to help leaders go further.

Faster, I'm Andy Stanley, and I have been looking forward to this month's podcast for a long time,

because today, for the first time, John Maxwell is joining us to talk about a topic we have never discussed before.

In fact, I think John's probably the only person I would ever invite to even talk about

this topic.

John is here to talk about how to get a return on failure.

And the reason John is talking about this, I was with John and Odessa earlier this year,

and I heard him give a talk on

this topic, and you know how it is, you're listening to, you're listening at, you're taking notes,

and I thought, you know what, I just need to have John come redo all of this on our podcast,

so I invited him to do that, and he graciously agreed. So John, welcome to the Andy Stanley

Leadership Podcast. Thanks, Stanley. Good to be with you and all of your listeners. And I am one of your listeners also, Andy, I can tell you. You have taught me so much over the years, and I learned so much from you. And so thanks for what you do for so many of us. And I'm one of your listeners. Today I get it beyond the show.

Well, that is intimidating. In fact, just so our listeners know, years ago, John and Margaret

lived in Atlanta, and they attended our church. And so just, you know, for those of you who are

communicators or pastors, so, you know, I'm, I was usually five, seven minutes into my message,

and there's John. And I'm preaching and thinking at the same time, oh, am I quoting him? Am I stealing something? And suddenly, it was just hard not to see John Maxwell as the filter for the entire message. But he was always so gracious, and he and Margaret, always so complimentary.

Now, you don't need to know this, but I just feel like I need to say it. In case you didn't know,

John Maxwell is a number one New York Times bestselling author, has been for years. He's a leadership coach, speakers, traveled all over the world. He's sold more than 30 million books.

He's been called the number one leader in business by the AMA and the world. He's sold more than 30 million books. He's been called the number one leader in

business by the AMA and the world's most influential leadership expert by Inc., which is absolutely

true. Through the John Maxwell Company, the John Maxwell team, equip his nonprofit and the

John Maxwell Leadership Foundation, he has trained literally millions of leaders in every nation in the world,

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