Welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast Reverb, a deeper dive into this month's podcast topic designed to help leaders go even further faster.

I'm your host, Susie Gray. And today we're continuing our conversation on leadership legacy.

If you haven't already listened to last week's episode with John Maxwell, I highly recommend starting there.

Andy and John had an incredibly rich discussion about building your legacy now, not later.

For today's episode, we'll focus on how Andy has developed his legacy over the years.

But before we get to that, Andy, what were your thoughts on your conversation with John?

I thought it was great.

Yeah, it was great.

And for our listeners who skipped that one, you need to go back and listen.

John is a sage.

I mean, he says, what do you see, 77?

77.

Yeah.

And he continues to learn.

At the end, he said he has 13 more books to write.

I know.

Made me tired. I'm trying to write another book,

you know. And then that statement he made that when you can afford to quit is when you can't

afford to quit. How he said it, you can afford to quit. His point was, you know, we think about

finish lines and professional finish lines, you know, whatever, finish lines. And then he says, you know, if you have a finish line, then you're finished.

Yeah.

And leaders should never consider being finished.

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