How Trump and Project 2025 Will Mold America “In the Image of a Dictatorship”
Inside the Hive
Vanity Fair
4.2 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 11 July 2024
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
What would America actually look like under a second Trump term? Few resources paint a clearer picture than the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025, the right’s blueprint for a vast overhaul of the federal bureaucracy, as well as a playbook of immediate executive actions that could annihilate decades of Democratic progress in days. This week, the former president sought to disown the document, but Vanity Fair’s Molly Jong-Fast and Jeff Sharlet, are more than a little skeptical. And, on the latest episode of Inside the Hive, the two discuss precisely what voters should fear most in the 900-page plan—from mass deportations to crackdowns on reproductive rights—and whether the country truly condones or even wants a fascist MAGA makeover. “The majority will accept fascism,” says Sharlet. “I’ve never seen a country where that wasn’t true.”
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| 0:39.0 | Hey Molly, what scares you most about Project 2025? |
| 0:43.0 | That it is an organized assault on American democracy in a way that we did not see with the first Trump admin because with the first |
| 0:55.4 | admin he just brought in his friends people he met on the internet you know |
| 1:00.9 | people who went to his golf club he wasn't as ideologically |
| 1:07.8 | committed in a certain way now these are the Republican Party's intellectuals. I'm worried about just the like |
| 1:16.0 | the deportation camps using the Comstock Act to prevent the mailing of abortion pills, birth control pills. I mean they're |
| 1:25.4 | going to take over every aspect of your life from taking away the federal |
| 1:30.0 | Department of Education, changing the way the public schools work. |
| 1:34.8 | This will remake America in the image of a dictatorship as sort of crony capitalism, autocracy. |
| 1:41.8 | So that I find worrying. |
| 1:43.4 | That is Molly Jong Fast, special correspondent for Vanity Fair and host of the Fast Politics |
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