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The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

IBCC Episode 45 ETOH Withdrawal

The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

Adam Thomas

Foam, Medicine, Health & Fitness, Science, Criticalcare, Medicaleducation

5714 Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2019

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we cover the last half of phenobarbital week! This is a long one, but we cover the Farkas manifesto on by phenobarb is superior to standard approaches to alcohol withdrawal management.

-Dosing

-Indications/Contraindication

-Adjuvant therapies & more

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, so welcome back to the Internet Book for Critical Care podcast. I'm here with Adam Thomas,

0:09.9

and we're going to talk about alcohol withdrawal. This is going to be a bit of a long one.

0:13.5

Josh, we're doing it. The hype on the Internet was out there. You consulted the Twittosphere,

0:19.0

and you made this comprehensive.

0:22.8

Straight up answered all the questions I would have as an Emerge Doctor Intensivist.

0:26.5

So we're going to get straight into it.

0:28.2

And yes, there's a case description of Porphyria.

0:30.9

So Josh has hit everything you want to know about on here.

0:34.7

So today, Big Sign Post, we'll talk about treatment with phenobarbital and why it's

0:39.1

money. We'll talk about the role of other drugs, special situations, and to polish it all off

0:44.5

that checklist when you see a patient in alcohol withdrawal. So the preamble here, because I'm a

0:49.7

zennial. There's some millennials out there. When we grew up in medicine, it was always benzos.

0:54.9

It was always benzos, Josh.

0:57.0

So why don't you walk me down memory lane and say something before our generation of physicians

1:02.4

that this is not always the case.

1:04.8

Yeah.

1:05.0

So historically, prior to around the 1970s to 1980s,

1:09.3

barbiturates were the frontline agent for alcohol withdrawal. And then

1:12.0

Benzos came along and they were the new hotness and they essentially replaced barbiturates. And

1:17.2

there was never any real evidence for that replacement. I've dug back and there's basically like

1:21.9

no RCTs. If anything, there's one trial that suggested maybe barbiturates were a bit better.

1:25.7

But long short, that was in the pre-evidence-based medicine era. There's a shift to benzodiazepines.

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