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Recently, we spoke with a guest about a bill, a proposed bill in the Illinois House

that would impose draconian regulation on homeschooling,

and now the ongoing story of forcing students to share restrooms with the opposite sex.

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Joining us to discuss the Illinois Education Board and Chicago Public Schools forcing students

to share restrooms and other private spaces with the opposite sex.

Jacob Hubert, he's president of Liberty Justice Center. Jacob, welcome.

Thank you. Good to be here. And Paul Zimmerman, Senior Council at the Defense of Freedom

Institute. Paul, welcome as well.

Thank you so much for having me.

Paul, what is Title IX? So Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 is a law that was passed by Congress in that year that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in education programs and

activities that receive federal funding. And so that includes colleges and universities, which is

usually the first thing that people think of when they think of Title IX is women's sports programs and the like,

but it also includes public K-12 school systems across the country because those school systems

receive federal financial assistance. And so they are all subject to Title IX and its

non-discrimination mandate.

Jacob, how would you describe the Biden administration's attempts to redefine Title IX?

Well, the Biden administration said that discrimination based on sex, which the statute does talk about, we could also encompass

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