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Hey, everyone.

Welcome to Dr. Rucho.

This is Michael Rucho.

I am here with my good friend, Sean, welcome to the show.

Thanks so much for having me, Doc.

Appreciate it.

Pleasure to have you here, my man.

And I'm excited about what we're going to discuss today because I think we had a similar kind of

internal shift several months ago, maybe even over a year ago now.

But I was feeling like I love this space, but I feel like things are getting too excessive. People are too afraid, and while we're doing a lot of good, we're also doing a lot of bad.

And I think people on the podcast have heard me make this criticism a number of times about how we can make functional medicine not as excessive, not as fearful.

We can reach more people if we know, if we do this,

and so on and so forth. And I think you've kind of been having a similar shift in your own right,

and you've been doing a little less with your typical healthcare kind of stuff, but focusing more

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