Infrastructure as code in 2025

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Thoughtworks

Careers, Business, 907234, Technology

4.7 • 53 Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Nearly ten years after the first edition of Infrastructure as Code was published by O'Reilly, Kief Morris is publishing a third edition of the book. But why a new edition now? What's changed in technology and business over the last decade?

Quite a lot, as it happens. To talk about what's new — both in the infrastructure world and in the book itself — Kief Morris joins host Ken Mugrage on the Technology Podcast. They discuss each edition and what's new in this one, and dive into the infrastructure challenges and issues that need to be tackled in 2025, from tooling and deployment to maintenance and infrastructure evolution.

Learn more about Infrastructure as Code, Third Edition: https://www.thoughtworks.com/en-gb/insights/books/infrastructure-as-code-3rd-ed

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0:00.0	Hi, everybody.
0:08.9	Welcome to another edition of the ThoughtWorks Technology podcast.
0:12.3	My name is Ken McGrath.
0:13.6	I'm one of your regular hosts.
0:15.2	And I have with me today, Keith Morris.
0:17.1	Keith, you want to introduce yourself?
0:19.5	Yeah, thanks, Ken.
0:20.1	So I am a distinguished engineer for
0:23.3	ThoughtWorks around infrastructure engineering in particular. I've been thoughtworks for about 15 years now.
0:30.8	I've basically been working with Infrastructure Automation Infrastructure as Code for, gosh, probably 25 years now since before it was called that um
0:39.3	and yeah that's that's my rough background so we're here specifically to talk about a book you read
0:46.5	called infrastructure as code uh and we're actually in volume three right now when was the first
0:51.3	volume published when did it first come out the first edition came out in 2016 and the second edition was in 2020, just in time for lockdown. So that
0:59.9	was kind of a little bit difficult in terms of kind of then getting out and talking to people so
1:05.0	much. And then, yeah, and third edition is coming out next month as we talk now.
1:11.3	So that'll be March towards end of March and early April,
1:14.7	depending on which edition and where you are.
1:17.3	Cool.
1:17.8	So, I mean, I guess first off, just what is the importance of infrastructure as code?
1:21.9	Why should people be paying attention to this as an area other than because your awesome book?
1:29.0	Yeah.
1:29.5	So I think the, I guess a lot of it is around as you kind of get a lot of infrastructure
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