We need to talk about vibe coding
Thoughtworks Technology Podcast
Thoughtworks
4.7 • 53 Ratings
🗓️ 2 April 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
The term 'vibe coding' — which first appeared in a post on X by Andrej Karpathy in early February 2025 — has set the software development world abuzz: everyone seems to have their own take on what it is, how it's done and whether it's a bold new chapter in the history of programming or an insult to anyone that's ever written a line of code.
Clearly, then, we need to talk about vibe coding — and that's precisely what we do on this episode of the Technology Podcast. Featuring Thoughtworkers Birgitta Böckeler (AI for Software Delivery Lead) and Lilly Ryan (Cybersecurity Principal), who join hosts Neal Ford and Prem Chandrasekaran, we dive into the different understandings and applications of the concept, and discuss what happens when a meme collides with reality.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. Welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology podcast. I'm one of your regular |
| 0:13.0 | host, Neil Ford, and I'm joined by another of our regular host today, Prem. |
| 0:17.7 | Hello, folks. Glad to be here. And we're joined today by two of our ThoughtWorks colleagues who have a strong opinion about |
| 0:24.7 | the subject we're going to be talking about today, and I'll let them introduce themselves, |
| 0:28.4 | starting with Brigitte. |
| 0:29.2 | Hi, my name is Begitta. |
| 0:30.6 | I'm a technical principal with ThoughtWorks in Berlin, and for the past one and a half years I've |
| 0:36.3 | been responsible in ThoughtWorks for building up our |
| 0:38.3 | subject matter expertise on using AI for coding and for software delivery in general. |
| 0:45.1 | And I'm Lily Ryan. I'm based in Melbourne, Australia most of the time, and I'm one of our |
| 0:50.6 | cybersecurity principles. I've had a focus for the last while on how the, |
| 0:55.3 | how cybersecurity intersects with artificial intelligence technologies and the ways that people |
| 0:59.7 | are building them into their applications. Fantastic. We are here today to talk about what started |
| 1:06.5 | as a viral post on social media that has been interpreted many, many ways, some good and some bad. |
| 1:14.0 | And today we're going to untangle some of the interpretations and the implications of what is now |
| 1:20.1 | suddenly called vibe coding. So can someone here please define vibe coding and where this term came from, please. |
| 1:29.4 | And this is where the problem already starts. |
| 1:31.3 | We were talking about that before we started this episode. |
| 1:34.4 | The speed of semantic diffusion in the AI space is really record speeds, right? |
| 1:40.5 | So for those of our listeners who maybe don't know about semantic diffusion, |
| 1:43.9 | it basically talks about when there's a term that over time kind of like loses its original meaning or is being reinterpreted by people. |
| 1:51.1 | Like famous example is the term agile, right? |
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