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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Is America broken?

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Sean Illing speaks with Alana Newhouse, the editor-in-chief of Tablet magazine. They discuss her recent essay on "brokenism," a term she coined in an effort to redefine political divisions in America. Newhouse argues that the most salient divide right now is between those who want to fix the institutions we have and those who want to burn it all down and start fresh. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Alana Newhouse (@alananewhouse) editor-in-chief, Tablet References: “Brokenism” by Alana Newhouse (Tablet, Nov. 21, 2022) “Everything is Broken” by Alana Newhouse (Tablet, Jan. 14, 2021) "See Workers as Workers, Not as a College Credential" by The New York Times Editorial Board (Jan. 28) Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of The Gray Area. Subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Engineer: Patrick Boyd Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

If this country doesn't give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and

0:06.3

replace it.

0:07.3

There's a lot of outrage across the country right now.

0:10.9

Often, it's hard to define, but it's rooted in a fundamental belief that the country is

0:16.6

broken, that our institutions are rotten and dysfunctional.

0:21.6

Let's talk about how Joe Biden said his build back better agenda cost zero American tax

0:29.3

dollars.

0:30.3

Let's union representing more than 4,000 Columbus teachers and staff striking for the first

0:34.3

time in roughly 50 years.

0:36.0

A sign experts say a mounting frustration nation rise.

0:40.7

This outrage is one of the very few things that people on the left and right share.

0:46.2

And it's a source of widespread pessimism about our future.

0:51.3

Of course, there will always be many cleavages in the country, but maybe the biggest, most

0:57.0

salient division right now is between those who want to fix the institutions we have and

1:03.4

those who want to burn it all down and start fresh.

1:09.5

I'm Sean Elling and this is The Grey Area.

1:24.6

My guest today is Alana Newhouse.

1:27.6

She's the editor-in-chief of an online magazine called Tablet.

1:31.5

And she's the author of a recent essay for the site called Brokenism.

1:37.3

Brokenism isn't just a title of her piece, it's also a term she's coined.

1:41.7

And while I'm still not entirely sure what I think of her broader thesis, Newhouse did

1:47.4

something valuable in that piece.

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