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The Gist

Is Trump Delusional, or Just Betting We Are?

The Gist

Mike Pesca

News, Politics, Arts, Daily News

4.4 • 3.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

The Bulwark’s Will Saletan joins to discuss Trump, Ukraine, and whether the former president is truly delusional—or just acting like he is. We also examine if the normal laws of political gravity will ever catch up to him. Plus, Trump endorses Elon Musk’s “five things you did last week” questionnaire. And in the Spiel, practical lessons from the Principles First Conference: How should we react when court orders are violated? Who will form the real, effective resistance to Trump’s autocratic ambitions? Produced by Corey Wara Email us at [email protected] To advertise on the show, contact [email protected] or visit https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist: https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g Subscribe to The Gist Instagram Page: GIST INSTAGRAM Follow Mikes Substack at: Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, you know, I often say the best way to support the show is to subscribe to Pesca Plus.

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And that is true, but it's never been more true than now.

0:07.0

Because we are having a really fantastic event in Manhattan on March 5th.

0:12.5

I am interviewing the members of the fifth column podcast.

0:16.2

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0:23.5

to free tickets to this event as long as they last. It's a podcast, it's a bit of a

0:30.3

suiare, and then at the end, I will put the members of the fifth column through their paces

0:34.6

as I challenge them to play trivia against each other.

0:37.6

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0:39.7

So again, you have the ad-free option, which is available if you go to subscribe.

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com, but should you opt in to the pesca plus tier, you qualify for a free ticket as long as they

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last for this March 6th event that a very generous benefactor

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has opened his home for us and the fifth column to attend.

1:00.8

Subscribe.mikepeska.com.

1:06.8

It's Tuesday, February 25th, 2025.

1:10.3

From Peachfish Productions, it's the gist. I'm Mike Peska.

1:13.4

President Trump met reporters alongside Emmanuel Macron yesterday at the White House.

1:19.0

They did shake hands a little bit, not as long as earlier in the day.

1:22.4

They also did some sidewards hand clasping.

1:25.5

I just think the two like to touch.

1:28.6

The honesty is too much.

1:34.6

At one point, the president was asked about Elon Musk's email to federal workers asking to list five things they did this week. We're trying to find out if people are working. And so we're sending

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