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Outrage: Professor Kurt Gray Plus a Visit From The Proud Boys

The Gist

Mike Pesca

News, Politics, Arts, Daily News

4.4 • 3.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Psychology professor Kurt Gray, author of Outraged: Why We Fight About Morality and Politics and How to Find Common Ground, joins to discuss how our deep-rooted sense of victimhood is shaped by our evolutionary past as prey—and how that influences modern political and moral conflicts. Plus, Mike recounts his experience at the Principles First Summit, where discussions of civic virtue were overshadowed by bomb threats and the unexpected presence of the Proud Boys. Produced by Corey Wara Email us at [email protected] To advertise on the show, contact [email protected] or visit https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist: https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g Subscribe to The Gist Instagram Page: GIST INSTAGRAM Follow Mikes Substack at: Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:48.1

It's Monday, February 24th, 2025 from Peachfish Productions.

0:52.4

It's The Gist. I'm Mike Peska.

0:54.9

How was your weekend?

1:01.3

Mine was pretty interesting. I attended a conference of moderate conservatives, but also some centrist liberals, you know, both kinds. We have both kinds. The topic of discussion were ways to

1:06.8

keep Donald Trump from taking the country over the brink. Some good ideas were brought up at the principal's first summit.

1:14.8

For a second there, I was thinking, you know,

1:17.4

we just may be able to panel discussion our way out of this pickle,

1:21.9

out of our national pickle.

1:23.9

Then the Proud Boys showed up.

1:26.5

You were powered that day.

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