This is CBSI on the world.

I'm John Batchel with my good colleague Bill Rajo, Senior Fellow Foundation for the Defense

of Democracy.

He keeps the Long Word Journal.

And a major contributor to the Long War Journal is Jonathan Sayye.

Jonathan joins us to help us understand a story that is compelling and a fascination.

Saudi Iranian relations, there's a mystery for the last two or more decades that I've been reporting.

I don't have a short version of this, so we're going to ask Jonathan to help us.

The relationship always was presented to me as the Hatfields and the McCoys.

This is a perpetually feuding, based upon history, but also on what you'd have to say,

geopolitics of the moment.

However, Jonathan, a very good evening to you.

Thank you for this.

Good evening.

It's great to be with you.

The present state is MBS, who is the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, is looking in all directions during the Trump administration for conversation, so much so that he greeted Al-Sharah,

the self-named leader of Syria at the airplane.

So the relationship between Saudi Arabia and Iran is possible.

Could be anything.

Could be quantum geopolitics.

All answers are correct.

How would you characterize it right now, given the routine information that Israel is considering a kinetic strike against Iran's suspect nuclear weapons program and Iran is involved in continuing conversation with the U.S.

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