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Jeff Rosen: SCOTUS's dramatic vision of judicial supremacy

1 big thing

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🗓️ 4 July 2024

⏱️ 20 minutes

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As we celebrate 248 years of being a democracy, has the U.S. Supreme Court become the most powerful branch of government? We put that to Jeff Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, who in his latest book delves deep into the thinking of the founding fathers. For a special July 4th episode we asked him for his take on the immunity ruling and the SCOTUS term behind us, and his own 1 big thing: how the founding fathers' thinking about the courts and democracy matters today. Guests: Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center and host of We the People, a weekly podcast of constitutional debate; author of The Pursuit of Happiness: How Classical Writers on Virtue Inspired the Lives of the Founders and Defined America Credits: 1 big thing is produced by Niala Boodhoo, Alexandra Botti, and Jay Cowit. Music is composed by Alex Sugiura and Jay Cowit. You can reach us at [email protected]. You can send questions, comments and story ideas as a text or voice memo to Niala at 202-918-4893. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

As we celebrate 248 years of being a democracy, has the US Supreme Court become the most powerful branch of government?

0:13.2

Alexander Hamilton called it the least dangerous branch, but by embracing this dramatic

0:20.3

vision of judicial supremacy, this court has dramatically expanded its own power.

0:27.0

How might the founding fathers have interpreted the court's presidential

0:31.1

immunity ruling.

0:32.6

And what can we learn by looking back at their approaches?

0:36.1

In their view, personal self-government

0:38.0

was necessary for political self-government,

0:40.1

unless individual citizens focus on mastering their unreasonable passions like

0:46.0

anger and jealousy and fear, then we're going to not be able to keep the American experiment.

0:52.1

I'm Naila Boodoo and from Axios this. be able to keep the American experiment.

0:52.8

I'm Nailaboodoo and from Axios, this is one big thing.

0:57.0

Happy 4th of July. Our holiday this year comes just days after the Supreme Court wrapped up its session with a major and divisive ruling on presidential power.

1:12.0

In a 6-3 decision along party lines, the visevisevise ruling on presidential power.

1:12.5

In a six to three decision along party lines,

1:14.8

the justices said presidents have broad immunity

1:17.9

from prosecution over so-called official acts

1:21.6

that likely protects former President Trump for some of his actions around January 6th.

1:27.0

So for this special holiday episode, we had a conversation with Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center and host of We the People,

1:36.2

a weekly podcast of constitutional debate.

1:39.2

His latest book delves deep into the thinking of the founding fathers, and we asked him for his take on the presidential

1:45.8

immunity ruling and the Scottish term behind us, as well as his own one big thing, how the

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