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Welcome back to The Life with Mary and a podcast. I'm your host, Mary and a Hewitt.

In this episode, I'm so honored to have Jen Atkin here with us. You know her as a celebrity

hairstylist and founder of Weigh, but to me, she's my friend, big sister, and mentor.

She's given me so much advice in my life and career that I had to have her on the podcast

chat about her career journey, advice for new brands, and of course, to talk about her new book,

That's Out Now. Jen, I am so excited to have you on. Congratulations,

podcaster. I'm so excited that this is happening. I know. Well, I'm so excited because today,

officially, your book comes out, your first book, blowing my way to the top. So I got to know about

this name of this book. So I wanted something that you would remember, and I wanted something that

was controversial and also funny. And when I was looking at titles, it was like making waves.

It was just like, all the titles were so basic. And so I begged my publisher, if we could call it,

blowing my way to the top, and they thought I was like, don't answer yet. Think on it. Let's talk

Monday. And they came around and they were like, okay, we are going to trust you here. So I,

again, following my gut instinct, and I'm so obsessed with how it turned out. It's so funny.

I love it. It's so good. And anyone who knows you, like, your sense of the humor and just like

personality, like, I feel like people totally get the tone of that throughout the whole book,

and like, really get to know who you are. And so I love it. And I think it's so great and so memorable.

Thank you. I had to call my Mormon parents and explain to them. My book was going to be

called blowing my way to the top. And that was a fun conversation. All right. So in the book,

you talk about how to break rules, finding your purpose, creating life in the career you deserve.

So what rules do you really think people should be breaking? I think a great example of that is kind

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