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🗓️ 26 September 2024
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0:00.0 | I'm Jonathan Kapart and welcome to Kapart. |
0:03.0 | On September 23rd, the Washington Post hosted a climate summit in New York City |
0:08.4 | as the United Nations General Assembly got underway on the other side of town. |
0:13.6 | The closing plenary session was about China, and my guest was John Carey, the 68th |
0:18.8 | Secretary of State under President Obama, and the former Special Envoy for Climate under President Biden. |
0:26.0 | We talked about his interactions with President Gizin-Ping and how the Chinese leader is laser |
0:31.2 | focused on the climate issue about China's renewable energy |
0:35.1 | revolution that has outpaced the United States and what the United States |
0:40.0 | needs to learn from its competitor. Make decisions, make Congress work, get your asses in gear and stop screwing around. |
0:47.0 | We are crunched for time. |
0:51.0 | You are especially crunched for time, so I'm just going to dive in. |
0:54.2 | When you were the U.S. climate envoy, what was your sense of the Chinese government's |
0:58.7 | urgency in countering climate change? |
1:01.9 | I would say that China was in transition from not moving sufficiently or embracing |
1:10.1 | the challenge to actually embracing it. |
1:13.0 | And as a result of the Sunnylands negotiation |
1:17.0 | that we had in California a couple years ago, |
1:20.0 | I guess a year ago now. China agreed to do things they've never agreed to do. |
1:26.0 | One, to list all greenhouse gases in their national goal. |
1:31.0 | Two, that includes methane, which they hadn't done, so they also agreed to do a national |
1:36.7 | methane reduction plan, which is critical. |
1:39.6 | And thirdly, they agreed to accelerate in this decade, which they were kind of refusing to do, claiming |
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