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Hello everybody out there.

This is Glen Lowry.

You have tuned in to the Glenn show

with John McWhorter, my conversation partner every other week,

sponsored by the Manhattan Institute.

John teaches at Columbia and Rights for the New York Times,

and I'm on the faculty here at Brown University and am John Paulson Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

So we're back.

John, a week off the cycle. We had a little change in the calendar last week, but here we are,

in our bi-weekly. What's up? What's going on?

Well, you know, I, of course, am thinking about the rapid ascent

of Kamala Harris into the National Consciousness and what it means and what I find

especially important on this is that there's the obvious parallel with our first discussion way back in the 1850s where we were talking

about the Obama phenomenon and how I was so excited because I thought it was going to be really

special if there was possibly going to be and after a while it was clearly going to be a black president.

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