Joe Rogan

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Well, uh, welcome man. Thanks for doing this. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me. A long time coming. How the fuck did you rise so far ahead of everyone else in the Jiu-Jitsu world?

Let me just tell everybody before things get started.

Gordon is

undeniably the best pound for pound jugitsu player on earth.

Not just the best but pretty

pretty it's a pretty good statement to say that you're the best ever when you're only 25 yeah

that's crazy yeah how the fuck does that happen uh so I'm gonna go ahead and give give credit to

John I mean, I think that without him, I maybe would have been successful.

I would have been, you know, maybe the best in the world at some point in my career but I don't think that

without John I would be where I am right now and I don't think that I would have gotten

this good in this amount of time you know I've, I've been training 10 years,

I've been competing professionally for five years.

And I think that, you know, a big part of the reason

why I am where I am is because of Johns coaching.

Yeah, and we're talking about John Donnerher,

for people who don't know who is a literal genius and a mastermind in Jiu-Jitsu and a true mad scientist.

And watching him coach you guys is very fascinating because he's so serious and stoic and

Gordon Ryan pass over the left leg. Gordon Ryan post like the way he talks like it's

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