Judging Sam: An FTX Victim Speaks Out

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Business, Society & Culture, Sports

4.6 • 9.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Voices of the victims of Sam Bankman-Fried’s alleged crimes have been few and far between during the prosecution’s presentation of its case. On today’s show, Lidia Jean Kott sits down with Jake Thacker, a tech worker from Portland, Oregon who borrowed money to bet big on FTX, only to be left holding the bag. He says he’s now bankrupt and unsure whether he’ll be able to keep his home.

This conversation was recorded on October 23.

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0:00.0	Pushkin.
0:07.0	Hey listeners.
0:10.0	If you're in the Bay Area in California, you ought to come out on Monday, November the 13th to the Sydney
0:15.6	Goldstein Theater in San Francisco. On that night, I'll be on stage during a live event talking
0:21.3	about my new book, Going the rise and fall of a new
0:24.7	tycoon the book is about Sam Bankman freed and the spectacular rise and fall of
0:30.7	his crypto exchange FTX I had really almost unlimited access and it's an incredible
0:36.1	story and I can't wait to tell you about it. It's at 7.30 p.m. on Monday, November the 13th and presented by City Arts and Lectures.
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0:49.6	City Arts.net.
0:51.4	I'm looking forward to seeing you there.
0:53.0	Hey there, it's Michael Lewis.
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1:32.3	Welcome to Judging Sam, the trial of Sam Bankman Freed. I'm Michael Lewis.
1:37.0	Bankman Freed was worth tens of billions of dollars before FTX, his
1:41.0	cryptocurrency exchange, came apart at the seams.
1:44.9	And now he's being tried for financial crimes that could send him to prison for the rest of his life.
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