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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Judging Sam: Week 3 is in the books

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Business, Society & Culture, Sports

4.69.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2023

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Another week come and gone, and like everything SBF, it wasn’t without a healthy dose of drama. Lidia Jean Kott catches Michael Lewis and Jacob Goldstein up on all that has gone down.

This conversation was recorded on the evening of October 19.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Think the case for global decline has been oversold, then you should check out the latest

0:13.8

season of What Could Go Right.

0:15.3

It's co-listed by me, M.F.R.V.Lugus, and Progress Network Founders Zachary Carabaugh.

0:19.7

What could go right may not have all the answers, but ask the key questions.

0:23.6

Every week we discuss the world's most pressing issues with our resorting to pessimism

0:27.5

or sensationalism.

0:29.2

We talk with guests like M.P.R. Anchor-Stevensky, democracy expert Yasha Monk, prolific writer

0:34.0

and historian Rebecca Solnit, and Green Energy Entrepreneur Jiger Shah.

0:38.0

So go ahead, listen to What Could Go Right on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your

0:41.8

podcasts.

0:42.8

Hey there, it's Michael Lewis.

0:45.2

Before we get to this episode, I want to let you know that you can listen to each episode

0:49.0

of Judging Sam, the trial of Sam Benjamin Fried, ad-free by becoming a Pushkin Plus subscriber.

0:56.2

And with your subscription, you'll also get exclusive access to ad-free and early bingeable

1:00.9

podcasts, like Paul McCartney's new podcast McCartney, a life in lyrics.

1:06.4

Malcolm Gladwell's revisionist history, the happiness lab from Dr. Laurie Santos, and

1:11.8

tons of other top shows from Pushkin.

1:14.5

Sign up in Apple Podcasts or pushkin.fm-slash-plus.

1:21.8

Welcome to Judging Sam, I'm Jacob Goldstein, and we're recording this on Thursday,

1:25.9

October 19th, the third week of the trial of Sam Benjamin Fried wrapped up today.

1:32.2

And the prosecution is all but done presenting their case.

1:35.5

Their last big star witness was this week.

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