Judging Sam: Caroline Ellison Takes The Stand

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Business, Society & Culture, Sports

4.6 • 9.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2023

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Caroline Ellison, former co-CEO of Alameda Research and Sam Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend, takes the stand and has a lot to say. Ellison recently pled guilty to financial fraud, and is cooperating with the prosecution. In this episode Lidia Jean Kott discusses what came up on Day 1 of Caroline’s testimony with Jacob Goldstein, financial reporter and author of the book Money.

This conversation was recorded in the evening on October 10.

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0:00.0	Music
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0:46.0	Hey there, it's Michael Lewis. Before we get to this episode,
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1:23.0	Welcome to Judging Sam, the trial of Sam Beckman-Freed. I'm Michael Lewis.
1:28.0	Beckman-Freed was worth tens of billions of dollars before FTX,
1:32.0	his cryptocurrency exchange, came apart at the seams.
1:35.0	And now he's being tried for financial crimes that could send him to prison for the rest of his life.
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