Judging Sam: Guilty on all counts
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis
Pushkin Industries
4.6 • 9.8K Ratings
🗓️ 3 November 2023
⏱️ 11 minutes
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Summary
The jury, after about 4 and a half hours of deliberation, has delivered its verdict – guilty on all seven counts. Lidia Jean Kott was in the courtroom when it happened. Her conversation with financial reporter Jacob Goldstein was recorded on November 2.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin |
| 0:07.0 | Hey listeners, if you're in the Bay Area in California, you ought to come out on Monday, November the 13th to the Sydney Goldstein Theater in San Francisco. |
| 0:18.0 | On that night, I'll be on stage during a live event talking about my new book, Going Infinite, the rise and fall of a new tycoon. |
| 0:26.2 | The book is about Sam Bankman Freed and the spectacular rise and fall of his crypto exchange |
| 0:31.6 | FTX. |
| 0:33.0 | I had really almost unlimited access and it's an incredible story and I can't wait to tell |
| 0:37.7 | you about it. |
| 0:38.7 | It's at 7.30 p.m. on Monday, November the 13th and presented by City Arts and Lectures. |
| 0:44.8 | For more information on attending live, purchasing tickets, or watching online, visit Cityarts.net. |
| 0:50.8 | I'm looking forward to seeing you there. |
| 0:55.0 | This is judging Sam, the trial of Sam Bankman Freed. |
| 0:59.0 | I'm Jacob Goldstein, sitting in for Michael Lewis, |
| 1:02.0 | and the trial of Sam Bankman Freed is over. It's just before 9 p.m. |
| 1:07.3 | on November 2nd and Sam Bankman Freed has been found guilty on all counts. |
| 1:13.6 | Lydia Jean, you were in the courtroom. |
| 1:16.8 | Tell us what happened. |
| 1:18.3 | So, you know, we were all in the courtroom for hours |
| 1:21.6 | waiting for the verdict, and honestly honestly we weren't expecting a verdict at |
| 1:25.4 | that point because they hadn't been deliberating very long. Right. I mean it could |
| 1:28.6 | take days right? It's not unusual for church to deliberate for days yeah. It was more chaotic in the courtroom than it ever had been before. |
| 1:36.5 | It kind of felt like there were no rules. |
| 1:38.5 | And there was a point in the evening where I was in the front row and then Sam Bankman Freed actually came in with his lawyers |
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