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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Judging Sam: Michael Lewis comes to court

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Business, Society & Culture, Sports

4.69.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Michael Lewis finishes his book tour and joins Lidia Jean Kott in court. His timing, as usual, is impeccable. The government rests its case. And then, everyone thinks Sam Bankman-Fried will take the stand. Instead, in a surprise twist, Judge Kaplan sends the jury home. LJ and Michael meet up on the courthouse steps to talk through the day’s events.

This conversation was recorded on October 26.

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0:00.0

Hey listeners, if you're in the Bay Area in California, you ought to come out on Monday

0:13.8

November the 13th to the Sydney Goldstein Theatre in San Francisco.

0:18.3

On that night, I'll be on stage during a live event, talking about my new book, Going

0:22.7

Infinite, The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon.

0:26.2

The book is about Sam Beckman Freed and the spectacular Rise and Fall of his crypto

0:31.1

exchange FTX.

0:33.0

I had really almost unlimited access and it's an incredible story and I can't wait to

0:37.6

tell you about it.

0:38.8

It's at 7.30 pm on Monday November the 13th and presented by City Arts and Lectures.

0:44.8

For more information on attending live, purchasing tickets or watching online, visit cityarts.net.

0:51.4

I'm looking forward to seeing you there.

0:59.0

Welcome to Judging Sam, our podcast about the trial of Sam Beckman Freed.

1:02.6

I'm Michael Lewis and I'm here outside the courthouse with Lydia Jean-Cott, doing

1:07.0

actual reporting.

1:08.0

I'm off my book tour and we're going to be together in the courthouse for the next

1:12.0

four days.

1:13.0

Lydia Jean was in the, she got here was at three in the morning or four in the morning,

1:17.6

was in the overflow room and I got here late and thanks to Lydia Jean-Cott.

1:21.3

And while snuck into the main courtroom to watch Sam Beckman Freed testify, I want

1:26.2

to, so we're going to start with you because you actually took notes, I just sat and watched.

1:29.9

What was your, what were your takeaways today?

1:32.0

So first off we should say that it was kind of a rehearsal for Sam Beckman Freed's testimony.

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