Welcome, listeners.

This is Rusty Reno in the first things offices at the editor's desk.

And this is the latest installment of the editors' desk podcast.

And I thought today we would draw in another resident of the First

Things office and another editor from her own desk,

Julia Yost, senior editor at first things,

an author of a review in the November issue of first things.

No, it's the October issue, isn't it, Julia?

Could be, yes.

It is the October issue.

By our wounds, we are healed, the title of the review.

And it's a review of Bessel van der Kokes, really kind of fabulously bestselling book.

The Body Keeps the Score, Brain, Mind, and Body and the Healing of Trauma.

Well, thanks, Julie.

I'm glad you could be on the podcast.

Thanks for asking, Rusty.

I remember when this book came forward as a potential book to review, I was sort of saying,

well, isn't this book been out for a good while?

And I think I remember, I looked it up online and, ah, it's the book with the Matisse on the front cover.

Is that right?

Have I got that right?

I think that's right, yeah.

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