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The Book Review

Katie Couric Talks About 'Going There'

The Book Review

The New York Times

Books, Arts

4.23.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2021

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Couric discusses her memoir, and John McWhorter discusses his new book, “Woke Racism.”

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0:00.0

How much does Katie Kirk reveal about the world of television news in her new memoir?

0:14.0

She'll join us to talk about her new book going there.

0:18.8

Is our understanding of how to combat racism in this country fundamentally flawed?

0:24.4

John McWhorter will be here to discuss his new book, Woke Racism.

0:30.0

Alexandra Altair will be here to talk about what's going on in the publishing world.

0:34.4

Plus, our critics will join us to talk about the books they've been reading and reviewing.

0:39.5

This is the Book Review Podcast from the New York Times.

0:42.7

It's October 29th.

0:44.1

I'm Pamela Paul.

0:49.3

Katie Kirk joins us now.

0:51.0

Her new memoir is called Going There.

0:53.4

Katie, thanks for being here.

0:55.0

Nice to be here, Pamela.

0:56.6

I'm going to start actually with that title going there.

0:59.5

Obviously, it has like a double entendre, maybe a triple entendre.

1:02.3

But what did you mean by that?

1:03.6

Why did you choose it for the title of this book?

1:06.0

Well, I think you're right.

1:07.6

It might have a quadruple entendre at this point.

1:10.6

Who knows?

1:11.6

But I really wanted to talk about my first of all, sort of my journey, which I hate that

1:18.5

word because I feel like it's so overused at this point.

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