Hey everyone, it's me Jasmine Lee and I'm very hyped to share this clip from our newest episode with actor and activist Kendrick Samson.

In this excerpt, the insecure star explains what it means to be an abolitionist in 2021 and breaks down his activism both in LA and at Standing Rock.

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That McGory, a fellow actor and activist was the first to call you an abolitionist and at the time you didn't understand the word.

But now it's clear you're a committed abolitionist. Can you take us through the meaning of that word and walk us through how you came to accept the term when referring to yourself?

Yeah, for sure. He was the first to ask me if I identified as an abolitionist and at the time we were trying to figure it out together.

We heard Dr. Molina Abdul talking about we don't need police and I said hold on, wait a minute.

You know, she came when this very program is said that. Yeah, I was like, hold on, wait a minute, because we're always taught we need police.

Like that's what a what is a world without police? What is a world without prisons? Right.

And we it's made synonymous with safety. It's almost like punishment and accountability.

We don't think of those things as separate concepts, but accountability is so much more than punishment.

And punishment is the only type of accountability that we're taught. Right.

In order to teach your kids, you got to hit them or you know traumatize them in some other way. Right.

So that they can avoid other trauma. It's like, you know, there's got to be other ways. Right.

And the same thing with our systems are legal system is all punitive. It's all punishment.

And the more I listen, the more I learn, the more I allow myself to be led by people who were far more dedicated than any politician that I had met or seen or heard.

I saw these people in the streets putting their lives on the line, putting their bodies on the line to liberate folks, to bring attention to what I had experienced as a kid. Right.

Being beat up by cops, being harassed by cops. And things that we all knew. Right.

And we just kind of made excuses in our own rules to kind of try to protect each other, which is what it boils down to.

We keep us safe. Yes. At all times. Right. We at that. Ultimately, that's what it boils down to.

Is this up to us to keep each other safe and to protect each other and to heal each other.

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