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Kool AD on Art, Capitalism, and Why Marx Would've Been a Great Rapper

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🗓️ 18 March 2017

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Since leaving the joke-rap/not-joke-rap group Das Racist in 2012, Victor Vasquez, AKA Kool AD, has stayed busy. His many artistic endeavors—music, visual art, a novel, and even a kids book ('The Selfish Shellfish')—frequently seek to imagine life in a post-capitalist utopia.In an interview with Jacobin's Tanner Howard, he discusses gentrification in Oakland, "the hustle" under capitalism, and why Karl Marx would make a great rapper.

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Hello. and editorial assistant at Jacobin.

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Whether he's releasing a hundred chapter book or a hundred song mixtape, Victor Vasquez, also known as Kool-A-D,

0:20.0

has kept himself busy since leaving the rap group Das Racist in 2012.

0:24.0

For a long time fans of Vasquez, it's not hard to sense a deep commitment to radical thinking,

0:28.7

lurking beneath plenty of goofy intelligent charm, a strong anti-capitalist bent prevalent in countless throwaway song lyrics and

0:35.9

articles penned on the over-policing of black neighborhoods. I sat down with the

0:40.4

Bay Area bred artist to discuss the Oakland Ghost Ship Fire which claimed 36 lives in the DIY space,

0:46.8

as well as which Marxists would make the best wrappers and his whimsical Marxist

0:50.8

fairy tale book, The Selfish Shellfish.

0:55.0

I just want to dive straight in and I guess one thing that's really interesting about all of your

0:59.7

work is just like how many people inspire you so So just sort of from things that you've

1:04.0

written a list of people that have influenced your thinking include Carl Marx,

1:08.4

Mose Deaf, Marina Abromovick, Ornette Coleman, Walter Beny Amin, Allison John Coltrane,

1:14.8

Chigavara, Maya Angelou, Amiri Baraka, Baskia, the list goes on and on.

1:20.3

Yeah, so it's a long one, yeah.

1:21.9

I mean, there's plenty more after that, but you know.

1:24.8

And so I'm curious with, I mean, just as many people as are influencing your thinking and your

1:29.4

work, how do you manage to just sort of reconcile that into the work that you put out there?

1:35.0

And I guess thinking politically, you know, there's so many different strains that you're drawing from,

1:40.0

obviously generally left thinkers, but how do you sort of

1:43.6

distill that and I don't think it's I suppose your thought is pretty

1:46.8

ecumenical in many ways. Yeah I mean basically I I think that pretty much everybody has about that number of influences

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