Hey on ladies, I'm bringing you a special episode today.

It's from the Say More Podcast, where in a special series,

Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung

is opening up the conversation about stress and burnout to help

listeners feel less alone and inspired to get help.

She connects with experts like Cal Newport and Emily Nagowski using

medical science, social science and philosophy to better answer deep questions about how stress works on our bodies and minds so we can work better and live better. In this episode, founder and host of the on-being podcast, Krista Tippett, says the uncertainty of the times we're living in requires a larger spiritual quest for meaning and stillness in modern life.

We inhabit a noisy, distracting world,

and getting quiet inside is necessary work.

Krista shares her own journey managing burnout and befriending reality in all its glorious messiness. Then she shares a benediction on burnout. You can find

say more episodes wherever you get podcasts.

Welcome to Say More from Boston Globe Opinion.

This is part three of our new series,

Say More on Beating Burnout.

I'm Shirley Leung.

On the last show, we talked to Cal Newport

about Burnout at work. This week I want to go deeper

because burnout is more than just being overloaded. It disconnects us from each other.

When we were planning this series, people kept telling me I needed to talk to Krista Tibbitt,

the creator and host of the on-being podcast.

At first, I was a little confused.

Her focus is on spirituality.

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