Fuck Mary Kill, Corporate Feminism Edition.

So your choices are having it all, leaning in, and girl bossing.

Oh, gosh. I don't know if I'd marry any of them. I guess I'd

fuck having it all and I'd marry girl bosses and I'd kill leaning in. Is that right? I think that's what I do, yeah.

Like girl boss gets a lot of attention in the media because we're like fixated on

taking women down, but I do think-in was the more kind of pervasive

like it really was like the Bible for women and work so I'd kill it sorry sorry Cheryl Sorry Cheryl. Like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like I've had enough. This is on ladylike. I'm Kristen. Today's guest

Samita Mukapadai definitely owes Cheryl Sandberg no apologies. In fact, if anyone has any apologizing to do, it's me for asking

Simita to play a bizarre game called Fuck Mary Kill Corporate Feminist Feminist Edition.

She is someone though on ladies.

I have wanted to invite on the podcast for years.

She is currently the editorial director. the

editorial director of the Meteor Feminist Media Company. Before that, she was

executive editor at Teen Vogue and before that Samita was doing what she's always done

which is writing about feminism the culture of politics and gender injustice.

Relevant to today's conversation,

I read her work back in the Lean In era.

I was definitely reading her throughout the Girl Boss era and then

by the time the Girl Boss Reckoning happened she had been put into a sort of rarified position of media leadership, and then, well, I'll

let Samiita tell it.

Her new book is called The Myth of Making It, A Workplace Reckoning.

And it is not the book, Simita set out to write.

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