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Death, Sex & Money

Laughing About Hard Things

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.6 • 7.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Alongside life's darkest moments there often are moments of absurdity that make us laugh.  In this episode, from a live San Francisco comedy festival in January, Anna and guests talk about the special kind of comedy born of something sad. Comedians Guy Branum and Carl Tart share stories of writing a sitcom about Zoom-era social relationships. Chanel Miller, author of Know My Name, talks about coping with the trauma of being a victim of a high profile sexual assault case… by doing standup. And Faith Albright, a veterinarian specializing in at-home euthanasia, explores the delicate art of finding humor while supporting grieving families through difficult goodbyes. Plus an AI chatbot and musician Matt Nathanson duke it out over who can more creatively sum up each segment.  Chanel Miller’s books are the memoir Know My Name and Magnolia Wu Unfolds It All, which was recognized by the Newbury Awards this year.  Faith Albright’s work at onelivingsanctuary.org.  Matt Nathanson’s new album is called King of Unsimple and he’s on tour…find dates at mattnathanson.com  Guy Branum has upcoming standup shows in LA, Chicago, Seattle and more…find those dates at guybranum.com  Watch Carl Tart’s writing work on SNL… keep track of all his podcasts and improv shows on his instagram.  Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

For years now on our show, we've made a place where together we do not flinch from the hard stuff in life.

0:08.3

But we also have a good time.

0:11.1

I laugh a lot on this show more than I maybe ever expected when I pitched an idea for something called death, sex, and money.

0:18.9

And so it was both unexpected and also kind of fitting that we got

0:24.1

invited to be a part of Sketch Fest this year, San Francisco's premier comedy and improv festival.

0:30.9

For our show, we decided to do something kind of weird and dig into hard things while also studying when and how you can

0:40.8

laugh about them. We called the show Let's Laugh About Hard Things. Now, sometimes humor can be a

0:49.4

deflection, a way to keep you apart from really facing something. So at this show, the humor we were looking for was the kind that's a release after you look straight at something.

1:03.6

My guests who joined me in doing this were comedians, Guy Branham and Carl Tart were there, along with musician Matt Nathanson, who plays very sincere songs, but often does comedy between them on stage.

1:17.5

A Bay Area veterinarian who specializes an at-home euthanasia joined me, and writer Chanel Miller was there.

1:26.0

You may know her writing. Her bestsellers, Magnolia unfolds

1:29.6

It All and her memoir, Know My Name. If you don't, you have probably heard of her. She first

1:36.7

became famous as the unnamed sexual assault victim on Stanford's campus. And she wrote about

1:44.0

that experience, including how she

1:46.6

coped with the long criminal trial process by trying out stand-up comedy, among other things.

1:55.8

Chanel and I talk about that, and she is really funny. And if you haven't read, know my name, her memoir, I highly recommend it.

2:03.9

So in this episode, you'll hear all of this from our sold-out show at Sketchfest in San Francisco.

2:10.3

And because it's in the Bay Area, we also invited an AI voice in. And you know what? AI can help you laugh about hard things.

2:21.2

And so can inviting others to chime in

2:24.1

with the hard things you're dealing with.

2:26.6

Stella from San Francisco,

2:28.6

climate change and menopause is not cool

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