In our new episode this week, I interview a married couple, Joe, who's 64, and Carmen, who's 57, who discovered a new sense of sexual adventurousness when they got together later in life, so much so that it led them to produce and star in adult videos that they shared on the Internet,

which cost Joe, the husband, his job as chancellor and professor

at the University of Wisconsin at LaCross.

Joe and Carmen had both been married before,

and after I talked to them, I started thinking about how few stories we hear about in-progress marriages.

Like not stories at the very beginning or ones about marriages in crisis or at the very end of a marriage after very many years.

I just don't hear from couples who are in it.

I'll celebrate my 10-year wedding anniversary this summer. And on our Plus feed this week, I invited my husband Arthur back on the show to do the first interview he's taped with me in more than a decade.

And we actually took questions from our senior supervising producer, Daisy Rosario, who's been married to her wife for a year.

Among her questions for us was one about whether we'd ever wished we had a pre-up.

This question prompts me to daydream a little bit about, like, what sort of prenuptial agreement we could have formed regarding certain household

chores. Oh, okay. That's fair. But the problem with that kind of agreement is I wouldn't,

I don't know what the penalties would need to be, because I don't want to not be married to you

if you don't do the chores. I just, I just want to have a little more leverage.

More leverage, huh? Arthur and I also took a few moments to remember Al Simpson, our friend who died on March 14th and who was being

remembered at memorials across Wyoming in the coming days. Al became a part of my life because Arthur,

who was a stranger to Al,

wrote him a letter asking for help with our relationship.

And Al responded and stepped in.

It was the first of many great kindnesses he did for me and Arthur.

I think what's going to take a long time to process is just that we are living together

in a world that he helped make for us through that moment.

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