Hi everybody, welcome back to the Be There In 5 Podcast, I'm Kate Kennedy, your host.

Excuse me while I set the mood a bit, my god, I love this song.

Is there anything better than seeing a show or movie or when a pop culture event happens

and all you want to do is talk to somebody about it?

That's how I feel right now about the Barbie movie, which I went into with no expectations,

especially because the plot was kept under wraps by the promotional efforts.

It always was very surface level, and I just did not know what to expect going into it.

I saw it a little earlier than when it came out in theaters, and I currently just have

so many things to say that I figured I'd hop on the mic and put this out later this weekend

by the time a lot of you see it, if you're looking for a place to talk about this movie

because my god did I enjoy it.

I'm going to guess a lot of you did too, although I guess I don't know.

It's hard when the reviews aren't out yet.

Well, I've seen a lot of formal reviews, but I feel like some of them are kind of missing

the point, but I just think the best will really, really get this one.

One of my absolute favorite things to do on this show is to explore the complexities

of nostalgia, and I often say to both celebrate and criticize millennial experiences or

brands for the ways these things shaped us for better or for worse.

And today's topic, another than Barbara Millicent Roberts, aka Barbie, like other topics

we've discussed on this show, like American Girl Dolls or, I don't know, the lore of shopping

at an early-ought sabrecrombian fitch, Barbie similarly operates on this fascinating spectrum

where depending on your angle, depending on your vantage point, it's like not that serious

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