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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

Lindsey Williams, Part 1: Shiny Happy People, The Institute in Basic Life Principles, and Meeting Bill Gothard

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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True Crime, Talk Radio, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Makeup artist, podcaster, and former Institute in Basic Life Principles member, Lindsey Williams (who is featured in Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets), delves into the Duggar family connection into the IBLP, being home schooled using "wisdom booklets", how physical punishment was a tenant of the faith, why women lived under the authority of their fathers and husbands, Lindsey's time at the Advanced Training Institute, the organization's twisted teachings about sexual abuse, and being recruited by the leader Bill Gothard to work at IBLP headquarters. Follow Lindsey on TikTok and LinkTree! https://www.tiktok.com/@thecultchronicles  https://linktr.ee/Cultchronicles   Trust Me is brought to you by Progressive Insurance! Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 29 million drivers who trust Progressive! Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or abuse of power? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at [email protected] CHECK OUT OUR MERCH!! bit.ly/trustmemerch  INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast

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0:00.0

If you have your own story of being in a cult or a high control group or if you've had

0:04.1

experience with manipulation or abuse the power that you'd like to share, leave us a message

0:08.4

on our hotline number at 347-86 trust. That's 347-868-7878 or shoot us an e-mail at TrustMePod

0:18.2

at gmail.com. Trust me, do you trust me? Trust me, I'm like a smart person. Yeah, I've never

0:25.6

lied to you. I never have lied. If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

0:32.5

Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cults and extreme belief and manipulation from two shiny,

0:38.0

unhappy people who've actually experienced it I am low-blown. And I am Megan Elizabeth.

0:42.8

We're unhappy today, but today is part one of our interview with Lindsay Williams,

0:46.7

makeup artist, podcaster and former member of the Institute of Basic Life Principles or the IBLP.

0:52.5

You may have seen Lindsay in the recent documentary, Shini Happy People, which delves into the

0:56.2

Dougher family connection to the IBLP. This week she'll tell us about what her childhood was like

1:00.6

being homeschooled using a series of non-academic books called The Wisdom Booklets and being told

1:05.3

cabbage patch dolls were demonic, how physical punishment was the tenant of the faith,

1:09.0

and how women and girls lived under the umbrella of authority of their fathers or husbands.

1:13.3

We'll discuss the group's leader, Bill Gothard, Lindsay's time at ATI or the advanced training

1:19.2

institute and the teachings that indoctrinated members of the group to believe that sexual

1:23.7

abuse was always the fault of the temptress, and that harm to their body was actually a positive

1:29.5

thing because it made them even more spiritually powerful. And finally, we'll start to dive into how

1:35.3

she was recruited by Bill to come work at the IBLP headquarters using some inappropriate questions

1:42.5

to be continued next week. Head up topics today will include themes of sexual and physical abuse.

1:48.7

Before we dive in with Lindsay, Megan, what's your cultiest thing this week?

1:54.0

So we watched Chinese Happy People to interview Lindsay, obviously, which is on Amazon.

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