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Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief and manipulation from two heavenly

creatures who've actually experienced it, I am Lola Blonk, and I'm Megan Elizabeth.

And this week, our guest is Lindsay Williams, makeup artist, podcaster, and former member of the

Institute of Basic Life Principles, or the IBLP, whom you may have seen on the documentary,

Shiny Happy People. In part two of our interview with Lindsay, we're going to talk about how IBLP

leader Bill Gothard would recruit a series of young girls to work for him, including Lindsay,

and what that was like for her, including the inappropriate questions and physical boundaries

he repeatedly crossed. We'll get into how controlling Bill was about who Lindsay dated,

and the website where women began connecting the dots about his behavior,

leading to over 30 of them banding together to make allegations against him.

Plus, the IBLP's connections to politics and how Lindsay managed to get out of the group.

Thank God. Thank God. Heads up. Topics today will include themes of sexual abuse.

Before we get into part two with Lindsay, which is an absolutely incredible interview in my opinion,

Megan, what is your cultiest thing this week? You know, I keep meaning to say this one. It happened

a couple weeks ago. Culty, I'm not sure what to call it exactly, but I'm sure most of you have

heard about it. It was in Gower, Missouri, when I don't really know why they dug up a none who'd

buried for four years, but when they did, she didn't have any traces of like decay. So thousands of

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