Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your high-level thinker fest of music, news and criticism, but also this week, reality TV news and criticism.

I'm John Geremonica.

I'm Joe Costcarelli, reporter at the New York Times.

Oh, fine.

We're not doing titles anymore.

Everyone knows.

They've made it this far.

If you are choosing to listen to Popcast during a historic election week in America, you know who we are.

Yeah, and we're here to soothe your brains.

We are.

So very pointedly, Joe and I last week were like, what are we going to do? This is, we don't know what's going to happen.

Obviously, it's before the election.

We don't know what's going to have.

We don't know what the week's going to be like.

And we're like, we want to do something that if you need a little bit of an escape,

they're probably going to need a little bit of an escape. If you've come to us, you've come to us for a reason. And that is to hear me and Joe

speak about something a tiny bit frothy that we love, which is reality television. Later, we will

be joined by Karen Gans, who also love something frothy. And we're going to talk about another

thing. But we're going to start by talking about Love is Blind, which just concluded season seven. Later, when Karen shows up, we're going to start by talking about Love is Blind, which just

concluded season seven.

Later, when Karen shows up, we're going to talk about the current season of Survivor,

Nerds First Nerds.

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