So Dr. Adam Miller, thank you so much for being here. Somebody in the room for two group

listen to your podcast on follow him loved it posted it there I

listened to it loved it and and so there was a the crowd was saying we want the two of you to talk.

So thank you.

So let me just formally introduce you here for a second and

gives everybody just anyone who doesn't know you a bit about who you are so Dr Adam Miller is a professor of philosophy at

Colin College in McKinney Texas He earned a BA in comparative literature from Bergman University

and an MA and PhD in philosophy from Villanova University. He's the author of more than 10 books including Letters to a Young Mormon and

original grace. He and his wife Gwen have three children and he serves as the

current director of the Mormon theology seminar. So just so people know I sent Adam the last two

episodes of Zach and Kelly of the you know of the seven just to kind of use Zach and Kelly of the seven.

Just to kind of use Zach and Kelly

as a little bit of a reference point

for just talking a bit about what love is

and how, Adam, how you think about love. I can't tell you how happy it makes me to hear you

talking about Christianity and Paul speaking about love in this way because about own life and kind of what my understanding of God, the only understanding of God that makes sense to me.

And so I love the understanding that you have of Paul really trying to teach us this concept

that's very hard to understand what love is when we're working from our I mean in my view our younger

developmental minds. So maybe we could just start with the question Adam of

how do you define love?

How do you think about that question?

That's all we have to manage to do today.

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