Luke Pearce on Ref Bashing, Diving, and Interfering TMO’s

The Good, The Bad & The Rugby

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🗓️ 15 January 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Good, The Bad & The Rugby, the team is joined by top referee Luke Pearce for an in-depth exploration of the challenges facing referees. Tackling topics like Mack Hansen's ban, the impact of TMOs on the game, and whether rugby as an emerging problem with simulation and diving.

Alex and Hask wrap things up with a lively discussion about the Investec Champions Cup, debating the greatest back row unit and previewing the upcoming Round 4 fixtures.

Season 5 is proudly sponsored by Continental Tyres.

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0:00.0	This week we welcome all the way from South Africa, one of the world's top referees, Luke Pierce.
0:05.2	Does the TMO make your life easier or harder?
0:07.5	I think it makes things easier.
0:08.9	We just want our TMOs now, moving into Six Nations, just to get the big stuff.
0:12.4	Do they know this?
0:13.7	Because some of them definitely don't know that.
0:15.1	Simulation and diving.
0:16.3	Give us your view.
0:17.1	Are we seeing a bit more gamesmanship? I think simulation when nothing has happened is a
0:21.3	total no-no. When players actually get hit in the head, it's very hard for referees to say,
0:26.8	come on, get up. It's a very hard scenario when it's not simulation, it's exaggeration.
0:30.6	Matt Hanson, the Ireland winger, has now been banned for six weeks. The real sadness in all of this is that the referee, who was Chris Busby, is now retiring.
0:38.3	The problem now with referees, they've been thrust into the spotlight and they are now being attacked.
0:43.3	Accountability is huge. This isn't a court where we're held on to our head.
0:47.3	It's a balance act here of making sure that we're protecting people, but we're also not hiding behind things either.
0:53.3	You think you get abuse as a referee, Luke.
0:55.1	You should try to be a podcaster.
0:56.8	That's another level.
1:00.1	Into the final moments, Alex Payne trying to keep this side going forward.
1:03.8	Haskell takes it on now with just relentless chat, largely about himself.
1:07.7	And there's Tyndall to add the finishing touch of glamour and World Cup winning stories.
1:12.5	That is how you podcast.
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