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No one knows what to do, including the people who are around you who have dealt with loss.

So I just said, I'm just gonna do this and I don't know what I'm gonna do,

but I'm just gonna take each day in each decision and try to do the best I can with each one.

I'm Carly Zaken and I'm Danielle Weisberg. Welcome to 9-5-ish with the skin.

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And that's what we're bringing you with this show. Each week we're helping you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders we know.

Because we know your work life is a lot more than 9-5.

All right, let's get into it.

Today our guest is Mary Celeste Bell.

She is the proprietor of the acclaimed resort hotels Blackberry Farm and Blackberry Mountain in East Tennessee.

They should just be honestly renamed like one of the like the best places on earth.

Her story is really fascinating. She took over as proprietor in 2016 after she lost her late husband Sam in a skiing accident.

Mary Celeste has helped transform the hotels into a renowned culinary and adventure destination.

And she's done it all while raising five children. Mary Celeste, we're excited to talk to you. Thank you for joining us.

I am thrilled to talk to you all today. I'm really happy you all want to hear more about my story.

Well, we are really excited to learn more. But before we do, we got to get to know you better via a lightning round. Are you ready?

I'm ready.

Okay, so here's actually my first question, which is so many famous people at influencers like talk about going to Blackberry Mountain and Blackberry Farm to relax.

What do you do to relax?

Oh gosh, five children. Read a book, go hiking, yoga.

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