Masculinity Debate: Are Dating Apps Creating A Generation Of Incels?! Lonely Men Are More Dangerous Than Ever!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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Society & Culture, Business, Education

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🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 146 minutes

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Are we raising a lost generation of men? Is society failing young boys? In this emergency discussion, Steven sits down with expert guests to explore the recently published ‘Lost Boys Report’. The Diary Of A CEO’s masculinity discussion is joined by Scott Galloway and Logan Ury. Scott Galloway is a member of the advisory council for the American Institute for Boys and Men and Professor of Marketing at the New York Stern School of Business. Logan Ury is a behavioural scientist turned dating coach and Director of Relationship Science at Hinge. In this discussion, Scott, Logan, and Steven discuss topics such as, how toxic masculinity has a grip on young men, whether dating apps are creating a generation of incels, the rising levels of violence among adolescent men, and why young boys are giving up on love and work. 00:00 Intro 02:13 The Lost Boys Report 03:46 Who Is Logan and What Does She Do? 05:07 Who Is Scott 06:12 How Did This Happen? 10:38 Fatherless Homes 14:40 Are Boys Mentally Weaker? 16:51 Is the Education System the Problem? 22:49 Where Are Male Role Models? 30:08 What the Stats Say About Dating 34:42 Dating Standards 44:23 Do Women Really Want Emotionally Attuned Men? 46:16 If They're Okay, Always Go on a Second Date 48:06 Men's Groups: Should We Have Them and What Are the Benefits? 54:57 Ads 55:50 Steve's Supportive Group of Friends 1:02:42 The Dangers of Porn for Young Boys 1:08:01 How Scott Helps Men With Porn Addiction 1:13:12 Men Approaching Women in a Post-MeToo Era 1:15:27 Teens Don’t Know How to Ask Girls Out in Person 1:25:22 Do Successful Women Struggle to Find a Partner? 1:28:11 Ads 1:29:14 The Rise of Feminism 1:30:54 Money Equals Identity for Men 1:36:09 Does Money Give Self-Worth to Women? 1:38:42 The Human Dating Boot Camp 1:47:33 How Is the Left Going to Get Men Back? 1:52:16 Advice for Parents of Young Boys 1:55:12 What Scott and Steve Had to Unlearn About Being a Man 2:10:02 Closing Message for the Lost Boys You can learn more about the March 2025 CSJ Report, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/2kI16MnW6Rb Follow Scott: Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/iY8VsRwW6Rb Twitter - https://g2ul0.app.link/mtdT5dzW6Rb Website - https://g2ul0.app.link/V8ukmVDW6Rb Follow Logan: Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/z6h5BeGW6Rb Twitter - https://g2ul0.app.link/jzjDZkIW6Rb Website - https://g2ul0.app.link/5SIP1FOW6Rb You can purchase Scott’s book, ‘The Algebra of Happiness: The Pursuit of Success, Love and What It All Means’, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/gNRRlBCU6Rb You can purchase Logan’s book, ‘How to Not Die Alone: The Surprising Science That Will Help You Find Love’, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/4aQGk5EU6Rb Research document: https://stevenbartlett.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/DOAC-Lost-Boys-Independent-Research-and-Further-Reading.pdf Watch the episodes on Youtube - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACEpisodes My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACBook Get your hands on the Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards here: https://bit.ly/conversationcards-mp Sign up to receive email updates about Diary Of A CEO here: https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt Ready to think like a CEO? Gain access to the 100 CEOs newsletter here: https://bit.ly/100-ceos-newsletter Follow me: https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb Sponsors: Shopify - https://shopify.com/bartlett Perfect Ted - https://www.perfectted.com with code DIARY40 for 40% off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is a critical conversation around truly the future of humanity.
0:04.0	But we don't like to talk about this.
0:06.0	This report is absolutely shocking.
0:08.0	This is a crisis and young men are struggling.
0:10.0	So I sat down with two leading voices on societal issues
0:13.0	to discuss the rise of millions of lonely, addicted men.
0:17.0	And the most important question is, how do we fix this?
0:20.0	So let's start with this graph.
0:21.2	It shows that young women are now out-earning young men.
0:23.9	It is true.
0:24.9	We have given women so many tools to achieve, but now boys are being left behind.
0:29.6	And that the number of males aged 16 to 24 were not in education or employment has increased by staggering 40%.
0:35.6	And the data I've seen is that when the woman in the relationship starts making more money,
0:39.9	they become twice as likely to get divorced.
0:41.8	Because traditionally women seek partners who have more economic or social status than they do.
0:47.1	And emotional intelligence is the new currency in dating.
0:50.1	But these guys were raised not to be emotionally intelligent, but to be a provider.
0:55.0	That a lack of male involvement in kids' lives is a big factor leading to this.
0:58.8	And once they lose a male role model, they become much more likely to engage in criminal activity.
1:02.6	And so we are just creating a lot of these angry young single men who are saying, well, this is rigged against me.
1:08.5	We actually asked some of our audience to write in and this guy, Jeffrey, wrote in and said,
1:11.8	my entire life, I have never felt like I was good enough.
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