On this episode of the Reseter Podcast, I bring you Dr. Karen Gordon.

Now I've brought you Dr. Karen before, we did a whole thing on leadership and on relationships

because she has a very interesting background where she is a therapist, traditional therapist, that used to work just one-on-one in her clinic and then

she moved into leadership and working with corporations and then that morphed into helping not just people with the business side of their life,

but also helping them with the relationship of their life.

And I will tell you that, but my husband and I use her for our business.

We found her through Jesse It'sler and Sarah Blakely.

They have used her.

I, we've done whole long days on communication with her through our business and my husband and I have

used her for marriage support.

So she's incredible.

She has a really unique lens and she has a great book out and a TED Talk called The Three Chairs.

She has a beautiful way of explaining things that just gets into your head and on this

conversation I really wanted to bring her to you all to talk about work life balance.

It's something that I've been trying to master in my own life and have leaned into support from her.

And you're going to hear in this interview

some of the things that she's helped me with.

You're going to hear some of the ways

in which we look at work life balance, which you probably have never heard of.

You're going to hear how do you choose the right relationships so that they're supportive of a great

work life balance and then I love where we ended on which is if you

master all this do you really need a vacation this was a fun part of the

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