Hello, this is Emma Ganon, and thank you for listening to this podcast. I just wanted to let you know that my new book, The Success Myth, Letting Go of Having It All, is out on May the 18th.

I think it's my best book yet, so I'm excited for it to come out. And the book unpicks the eight success myths from happiness, to money, to productivity, to celebrity, to the idea of finally arriving, and how chasing a version of success that doesn't align with your values can really take you off track.

And this book is about getting back to yourself, breaking free, finding a new way forward.

And it's available on May the 18th. If you love this podcast, you'll love the book, and it's available soon from all good bookshops.

So you can order yours now. I hope you like it.

Hello, and welcome back to Control of Delete. This is a replay of my episode with Meg Mason, recorded in 2021.

She is an author of several books, including The Recent, Instant, Sunday Times, Bestseller, Sorrow and Bliss.

Absolutely, everyone has read this book, it seems, and for good reason, because it is brilliant.

And since this episode happened, Sorrow and Bliss went on to also be shortlisted for the Women's Prize for Fiction 2022, which is an incredible achievement.

She began her career at the Financial Times and the Times of London. She's been a regular columnist for GQ, L, and Vogue.

But it's Sorrow and Bliss that seems to have captured the heart of the nation. And this book really is just so brilliant.

It's great on sisterhood, on mental health, on finding your own way, and on basically wanting other people to understand you, even if you are a complicated, complex enigma, even to yourself.

So I hope you enjoy this episode with Meg. I'm so, so excited to get to talk to her because she wasn't really doing that much press, I don't think at the time.

So you can tell in my voice how excited I am to talk to her. So I hope you enjoy, and here it is.

I have had my head in your book for, well, it didn't take me long to finish it, but it really got me out of my reading funk.

I feel like a lot of people said this about Sorrow and Bliss, that they felt like they couldn't really read anything, and life is really hard at the moment.

And then suddenly this book comes along, and it's like you've gobbled it up in a day. So thank you so much.

Oh my goodness, thank you. That's so kind of you to say, if that's true, then I'm really pleased.

It's so true. And I wanted to ask you about the process of writing it, because I have read a few interviews with you.

And when I was reading it, I felt like, oh my god, this isn't author having so much fun.

I was like, this is just such a fun, energetic, playful book, even though of course it's sad and dark in places.

But were you having fun writing it? I know that you had to get to that place.

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