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The Good Fight

Melissa Chen on the "Singaporean Model"

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and Melissa Chen also discuss the rise of China and the future of US-China relations. Melissa Chen is a Singaporean journalist and activist. She is a contributing editor to The Spectator and co-founder of Ideas Beyond Borders. In this week's conversation, Yascha Mounk and Melissa Chen discuss the unique cultural and political landscape of Singapore and its "competitive authoritarian" system of government; how the US went wrong in its policy of engagement with China; and what the Trump presidency portends for relations between the two countries. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected]  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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As a millennial, I'll say that I barely studied Li Kuan Yu and his ideas, versus Xi Jinping,

0:34.2

barely two, three years into his tenure as Premier China, ends up starting an entire chorus called

0:41.2

Xi Jinping thought.

0:43.0

If anybody deserved to have a thought, it was liquid when he rejected it.

0:50.3

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:59.0

Thank you. And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk. My guest today is Melissa Chen.

1:02.0

Melissa is a really interesting writer who is also the co-founder of ideas beyond borders

1:09.7

and vice president at strategy risks. She grew up in

1:15.1

Singapore and really chafed against the restrictions that this semi-democratic regime puts on its

1:25.1

citizens. Over time, she also came to appreciate some of the things that

1:30.2

Singapore does well. And we had a really interesting in-depth conversation about Singapore's

1:35.7

founding story, why it is that Li Kuan Yu has come to be a kind of hero, particularly among

1:41.5

parts of the tech set today, how Singapore tries to manage its ethnic diversity

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