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🗓️ 2 October 2023
⏱️ 66 minutes
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"What is it about the culture that has conditioned us to favor the wants and needs and desires, however horrible, of a serial murderer, as opposed to--most often--the women and girls that they harmed and killed?" This week, Sarah Weinman takes us on a backpacking trip through true crime history and American pop culture, and tells us about the myths and realities of criminal profiling—and why they're sometimes so hard to pull apart. And finally, we ask the ultimate taboo question: are serial killers boring?
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The Case of the Fake Sherlock
What lies beneath: the secrets of France’s top serial killer expert
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0:00.0 | Right, and it's like, okay, I get that we're a messing an army of kendals, but for what purpose? |
0:17.5 | Welcome to your own about. I'm Sarah Marshall. We are getting toward Halloween season. |
0:23.5 | And so we are talking today about the FBI. |
0:27.0 | Our guest today is Sarah Weinman, author most recently of scoundrel and editor of evidence of things seen true crime in an era of reckoning. |
0:36.0 | And on the show, you know, we like true crime, and we like reckoning even more. |
0:41.0 | To quote the FBI law enforcement bulletin volume 55 issue 12, the criminal profiling process is defined by the FBI as a technique used to identify the perpetrator of a violent crime. |
0:53.5 | By identifying the personality and behavioral characteristics of the offender based upon an analysis of the crime committed. |
1:01.5 | If you have been near TV in the last 20 years, you might know this field as the one depicted in criminal minds among many, many, many other shows, most famously used by the FBI's behavioral analysis unit. |
1:16.5 | This is a program that began in the 70s in a period that is now enshrined in law as the first mind hunters, including John Douglas figured out how to identify a criminal. |
1:31.5 | They had not seen and had only forensic information about by thoroughly investigating a crime scene thinking about trends in violent crime and in criminal typology. |
1:46.5 | And essentially creating a field of investigation that can at times be extremely useful and can at times be about as good as a random guess. |
1:56.0 | But that we love to think about in our fictions and that we love to believe in anytime the American legal system relies on our faith in a field where we as the American public want to believe that someone can get the right kind of training to walk into a crime scene. |
2:13.0 | And simply know who did it. That's going to lead to some problems and I wanted to talk about that today. |
2:20.0 | This is a true crime episode, but it's one where we're really talking about institutional failings more than the specifics of crime. |
2:28.0 | Listen with care, but know that our focus is elsewhere. |
2:31.0 | And that's about it. We're excited to bring this episode to you. We're excited to be easing into fall. |
2:37.5 | I hope you're enjoying some sweater weather or hating some sweater weather. Everybody loves sweater weather, but you don't have to like sweater weather. It's okay. |
2:45.0 | Whatever you're doing, do it well. Have fun with your friends. Enjoy this episode. |
2:51.0 | Two-to-three kitchen sliding door used a glass cutter into a suction cup. This entrance goes. |
3:12.0 | All the prints are smooth gloves, blonde hair, strong, size 12 shoe imprint. |
3:20.0 | Blood AB positive, type from saliva and glass |
3:22.3 | from licking the suction cup. |
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