Hello and welcome to ways to change the world. I'm Christian Guru Murphy and this is the podcast

in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas in their lives and the events that have

helped shape them. My guest this week is Misan Harriman. Now Misan is a photographer,

filmmaker, social activist. You will have seen him on Instagram or other social media platforms or possibly on stages and he's very, very wide ranging.

As a creative leader and as someone who believes he is helping create and build society in his social activism, thank you for joining us.

Misan Harriman, in what way would you change the world?

In what way would I change a world?

I will make the vibes for the world moral clarity

to recognize that the status quo that we have today can be rebuilt for the better.

Explain.

So, if we look at the islands of entrenched rage that are powered by the algorithms that our doom scrolling is making us do,

if we look at how much of the news media

is very comfortable keeping us angry,

but then you take a bird's eye view and you go to a protest,

you go to a women's march,

climate march, an anti-racism march. And you see average people really are doing their best

to build bridges.

You recognize that we can build community in a way that we are not today.

And that's something that I believe is happening slowly

and is not going to stop. I mean, this is the way you live your life.

And your life is remarkable because it has been transformed, I suppose,

over the last, well, less than a decade.

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