Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. Today is Monday, May 4th, 2020.

May the 4th be with you and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria. We got a

great show for you coming up but before we dive into that I want to thank my

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Okay, let's talk about this week's show.

I had the opportunity to sit down with David Shariatat Madari and he is actually a writer and an editor at the Guardian but he also

studied linguistics at Cambridge and the School of Oriental and African Studies in London.

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