One of my friends is a prolific calorie counter.

And he eats a lot of dominoes pizzas.

He listens to this podcast, he's going to know exactly.

He's going to know that I'm adding him.

He eats dominoes pizzas all the time.

He eats like a real processed food diet.

But then says to me, it's all about calorie counting.

Now, will you respect friend?

He's never managed to, I shouldn't say.

But it's not necessarily work for him in terms of the goal that he set himself.

So when I was reading about your Vian calorie counting in your book SpoonFed,

it was ice cream shot at it this morning in center to him.

And I said, you are a bullshitter.

That's what I said in the message.

And we had a good laugh about it this morning.

But what is your Vian calorie counting?

This idea that we can, you know, weight loss or being healthy is just about having a calorie deficit.

It's complete nonsense.

Thank you.

I will clip that and it's in.

There's never been any long term study showing that calorie counting is an effective way to lose weight and maintain weight loss after the first few weeks.

So yes, very strict calorie counting.

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