If you'll listen carefully you'll hear a campfire of a casia wood, camelthorn in the background.

Maybe crickets and if we're really lucky we may hear a lion roar across the Kavongal River.

I'm sitting here with...

I just heard a hippo.

I'm sitting here with my good friends Rob Gering Adam Weatherby Austin Brown and our

pH's jock Strauss and oh gosh I don't even know his last name.

Yokobs.

Yokobs.

Fransois,

And you would say Fransois Jacob.

Jacob. Jacob.

There you go. And we've got the apprentice pH 2, John Hartford here with us. And man, we have had such an

eventful week. We're going to tell you about that. We're about 12 hours drive north of where we left you on our last podcast episode.

In the area that was historically known as the Caprivi region, We're camping on the Kavangu River,

known in Botswana as the Okavango River,

and various other names in other places,

but we're in Namibia. So our focus here for the past three

days has been Cape Buffalo and in a really unique special opportunity. These are not, these are old old buffalo

daga boys of the purest sense. They're not a traditional trophy bull hunt. They call them an own use hunt.

Jock, tell us a little bit more about what that means in the various ways these

buffalo are put to use.

So the government puts out a couple of tags a year for a once like these which are like you mentioned

...