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The Good Fight

Musa Al-Gharbi on Why We Have Never Been Woke

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and Musa Al-Gharbi discuss why so many members of elite groups like to pretend they’re oppressed. Musa al-Gharbi is an assistant professor in the School of Communication and Journalism at Stony Brook University. His most recent book is We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite. In this week's conversation, Yascha Mounk and Musa Al-Gharbi discuss the tendency of certain elite groups to lay claim to marginalized identities as a form of symbolic capital; the challenges posed by "asymmetric multiculturalism," in which we encourage certain groups to organize along identitarian lines while discouraging others from doing the same; and how we can apply greater consistency to our analysis of social dynamics. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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play. Not that artist!

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0:31.0

A lot of times what people do if they want to know what say LGBT people or Hispanic people or

0:37.4

whoever think about a given topic because they won't try to look for nationally representative survey data or they won't go out in the street

0:44.8

and kind of talk to Normies about. Instead, what they'll do is they look for some kind of

0:49.0

consecrated elite spokesperson like Han and Nicole Jones orHussi Coates or someone like that.

0:54.0

And again, the problem with that move is that those spokespeople are often not necessarily

1:00.0

represent how most other people in that population think.

1:03.4

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

1:06.0

My guest today is Musa Al Garby. He is the author of We Have Never Been Woke, the Cultural

1:19.9

Contradictions of a New Elite, which is out in October with Princeton University Press and he is a

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