Navigating the Tangle of ADHD and OCD with Natalia Aiza

Hacking Your ADHD

William Curb

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.8 • 702 Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Hey Team!

In this episode, I’m thrilled to welcome Natalia Aíza, a multilingual counselor and OCD specialist.

Natalia is the founder and executive director of Kairos Wellness Collective, a therapy center that focuses on holistic care for clients experiencing OCD and Anxiety - located in Boulder, Colorado. They offer therapies including Exposure Response Prevention (ERP), Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Play Therapy, Art Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and Neurofeedback. Obviously, we won’t get into all of that in our conversation today, but we do hit on a few of those.

Also, separately, I wanted to mention that Kairos is the Greek word meaning “the perfect, delicate, crucial moment; the fleeting rightness of time and place that creates the opportune atmosphere for action, words or movement; also weather.” And really, I just wanted to share that because I love words like that - I just find them neat.

Anyway, in our conversation today, we dive into the overlap of ADHD and OCD - how they are similar and how they differ, and also the unique challenges each presents, especially when they are co-occurring. Natalia shares her personal and professional insights on distinguishing between ADHD distractions and OCD compulsions and how to approach treatment for each.

If you'd life to follow along on the show notes page you can find that at HackingYourADHD.com/209

Also before we get started, I wanted to let you know about my AMA on YouTube Live, happening the week this is released on January 31st at 10 AM Pacific - if you’re interested you can find that on the Hacking Your ADHD YouTube page, youtube.com/@hackingyouradhd and subscribe to the channel - or if you want to submit a question ahead of time you can do so at hackingyouradhd.com/ama

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This Episode's Top Tips

1. It’s important to remember that you need to approach OCD and ADHD treatments differently; techniques beneficial for one may exacerbate the other.
2. Try to distinguish between compulsions and simple fidgets or stims—while symptoms can be similar, it’s essential to understand the root causes that characterize compulsions.
3. Be proactive in seeking diagnosis and treatment if OCD symptoms appear; early intervention can prevent the condition from worsening.

Transcript

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0:35.8	your ADHD. I'm your host, William Kerb, and I have ADHD. On this podcast, I dig into the tools, tactics, and best practices to help you work with your ADHD brain.
0:46.3	Hey team, in this episode, I'm thrilled to welcome Natalia Aisa, a multilingual counselor and OCD specialist. Natalia is the founder and executive director of Cairo's Wellness,
0:57.4	a therapy center that focuses on holistic care for clients experiencing OCD and anxiety,
1:02.5	located in Boulder, Colorado.
1:04.2	They offer therapies including exposure response therapy, ERP, cognitive behavioral therapy, CBT,
1:09.5	play therapy, art therapy, acceptance and commitment
1:12.4	therapy, ACT, I movement desensitization and response and reprocessing, EMDR, and neurofeedback.
1:19.9	Obviously, we won't get into all of that in their conversation today, but we do hit on a few of those.
1:24.2	Also separately, I wanted to mention that chirosz is the Greek word meaning the perfect, delicate
1:28.4	crucial moment, the fleeting rightness of time and place that creates the opportune atmosphere
1:33.0	for action, words, or movement.
1:35.8	Also wither.
1:36.8	And I really just wanted to share that because I love words like that, and I just find them
1:40.5	neat.
1:41.5	So anyway, in our conversation today, we dive into the overlap of ADHD and OCD,
1:45.3	how they are similar and how they differ and also the unique challenges each presents,
1:49.4	especially when they are co-occurring.
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