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episode I find it really strange that people aren't able to make the distinction between regimes and populations.

Well, the whole thing is insane.

If you're angry with the Putin regime, okay, but why would that automatically make you say that you hate Russians?

There's 140 million of them. You can dislike Macron and like French people.

Why can't people make the distinction? Why do you have to be at war with an entire population?

Just because you don't like the regime.

It's insane, but moreover I can like or dislike anyone I want because I'm an adult man and I'm not a slave so I can have any opinion I want.

We discriminate by nature it's in our nature to discriminate.

But also it's my birthright like I you can't tell me who I have to like and dislike and I just I'm not going to submit to that

Last night we were talking at dinner and you expressed some views and I thought to myself I'm eating with a conspiracy

theorist. Well I think if you're not a conspiracy theorist by now you're not by an attention.

You are often described that way. Does it does it rattle you?

Well I suppose it was probably a time when it would have done but I've gone through

this process in the last four years of realizing that I spent the first 50-some

years of my life believing in trusting a certain worldview worldview that with COVID and everything thereafter all of that fell apart

it's like picking a thread on a on a tapestry the whole thing just fell away into and once once you lose all of the things

that you had to take and for granted and trusted then I suppose almost by definition you're in territory that the others who aren't on the same path as you would would call conspiracy theorists but it's really just you think well if I think now that they were lying to me about that and that and that

were they telling me the truth about anything at all? Yes and you're you're aware that some of it must be true

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