You're going to be. Hello and welcome to the Katie helper show. This is a free teaser of a bonus

episode that we released with Nathan Robinson.

Nathan is the editor of Current Affairs,

which is a great print magazine and also online magazine.

And here he makes his case for why Bernie Sanders will be the strongest nominee to run against

Donald Trump.

So if you like the interview and I'm sure you will, go to patron.com slash the Katie helper show.

Again, that's Patreon. And that's Patreon. of Donald Trump is a funny standard. Thinking prospectively about 2020,

it's going to be here sooner than you know it,

and you need a candidate.

And currently, it's not looking good.

And I think everyone needs to get over their ageism and just go it might have to be money.

So you say in this piece, needless to say, if your party contains a wildly popular politician

with an enthusiastic fan base of young activists who

is adept at speaking to the concerns of the Russ Belt states that lost you the election the last

time around, it would seem criminally foolish not to nominate that person as your presidential candidate

and he's definitely running by the way.

Oh yeah.

And you go through the different potential candidates you say every other candidate put forward is either

uninspiring, deeply flawed, or both.

Look for instance at Joe Biden.

Biden has a terrible record on racial issues, a creepy history with women, and has said he has

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